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B Rossمنذ 4 سنوات This should’ve been titled : how to use a digital microscope to inspect a stylus + full blown review of microscope. Cus BRUH. 16
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dirwan Yuliansyahمنذ 5 سنوات Talking too much, rather than explaining to when should we change the stylus 57
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Fintan O Brienمنذ 5 سنوات Interesting video. It stirred a memory of the 60s and 70s when I was young, my dad got a bad old auto changer turntable, we children used to play all sorts id="hidden2" class="buttons"> or records (including 78s) on it, my brother used to roll the records about the room. Sometimes I would experiment to see how many records I could pile on the auto changer. However in the seven years we had it, a new stylus was never bought. They must have been better pressings in those days because I now have all those records and they play relatively well, given the bad treatment they got. ....وسعت 3
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Cross Pollinationمنذ 5 سنوات Nice.thank you. I have been using a hand held loupe, but it's cumbersome with lighting, being still and looking very closely. 2
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DINESH CHINTHAKAمنذ 6 سنوات Great Video really helpful , and i recently bought LED microscope which enlarge up to 60x for $1.98 really cheap and does the job very well .Thanks 2
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paul trenearyمنذ 4 سنوات Nice - I was using a reversed telephoto lens to try and see the tips of my stylii - I may well invest in one :-) 1
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madyhateمنذ 5 سنوات Great video I've just ordered a
YOMYM 40 to 1000x
Looking forward to review Tool's Lateralus picture disc! 2
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Jesus Diazمنذ 4 سنوات haha ayou I have had my cheap one for two years and I use it all the time
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indigoTALKمنذ 6 سنوات Thanx 4 the image @ - have search such one for a long time. - finally i know's how it looks inside of the LP's channel .
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Danilo Montoyaمنذ 4 سنوات It is not ruby, it is saphire.
Thanks a lot for every great video you upload!!! 1
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X junkie NLمنذ 6 سنوات Fun to see the close ups. Every time I see a close up of the grooves I'm amazed music sounds so good from vinyl. Cheers. /Paul 11
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James Baxterمنذ 5 سنوات As I can’t fine the vid of the turntable so as I am asking you, what brand name was you showing. Where did you get it from. 1
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Badassvidszمنذ 6 سنوات Nice video dude very informative :-)
I also want to know if this little guy is compitible to windows 7 64 bit which i use ?
Thanks for any reply regards :-) 1
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Sorin Popمنذ 6 سنوات Awsome stuff, mille grazie! I know you are sort of starting out with tubes as well, if I understood correctly. But I would love to see some videos on that id="hidden5" class="buttons"> topic, for example, how to know when to replace your tubes perhaps? Do you know anything about that? Ciao! ....وسعت
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Chris Argueta KM6Sمنذ 4 سنوات Excellent video. great idea, using a digital microscope. Thank you for posting.
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drwisdom1منذ 5 سنوات I knew about these USB microscopes, but now I want one. 2
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George Anastasopoulosمنذ 5 سنوات Great, informative, and detailed video! Thumbs up. Very detailed, and honest explanation, ana[dea]log. Also, vinyl is final. 2
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Paul Cمنذ 5 سنوات Nice video!!! I will look into the scope I have a pocket microscope Carson 60x120 but I want a more powerful one and one that I can look at the side of id="hidden6" class="buttons"> my stylist while it's on the turntable itself,So I think this will work Thanks. ....وسعت 3
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HouseofRecordsTacomaمنذ 6 سنوات Exotic tipped stylii should be checked for proper alignment to extend its' life. Cleaned tip (after every side) & cleaned LP will also extend its' life. 2
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SimbrizInternationalمنذ 4 سنوات This video spent more time talking about the digital microscope. Waste of time. Get to the point. (pun intended)
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Xavier Roseمنذ 5 سنوات It kind of annoys me that some records stores sell used styli. If it's secondhand, you can gather that it's worn 2
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BADA BINGمنذ 5 سنوات Iam looking for a stylus called typologi s100.
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Aaron Grosserمنذ 4 سنوات It’s been about a couple months since I got my second turntable and I am starting to notice distortion on louder or higher songs (especially on my copy of fallen where there are violins) where it wasn’t before and when I play records I see white ish stuff on the stylus afterwards, are those signs of a worn out stylus? ....وسعت
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John h Palmerمنذ 6 سنوات This is great and a way to visually see if your stylus is on its way out, or has already gone out. Just to clarify, MOST MM/MI carts have replaceable styli id="hidden9" class="buttons"> (Rega carts tend to be one of the few exceptions), most MC you have to either completely replace the cart, or get it retipped by the likes of SoundSmith and others. ....وسعت 3
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Frank Blackمنذ 6 سنوات Great video and a topic I hadn't really thought about. What's amazing to me is that a diamond can be worn down by vinyl. I would think it would be the other way around. Cheers! 1
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Josh Moorfootمنذ 5 سنوات I got a question. Is skipping also a sign that it needs replacing. I ask this because I have 2 record players. On one of them all my records skip terribly but on the other one they play perfectly fine. 1
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HuertoElOasisمنذ 6 سنوات Have you ever try stylast, it seems makes it last 10 times, it means 10.000 hours 1
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Mike Andersonمنذ 5 سنوات Which is a better turntable?:
Sony PS-LX310BT or Audio-Technica Consumer AT-LP60XBT?
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Leonمنذ 5 سنوات You really cant judge the stylus wear with that kind of magnification. Even with proper magnification its not a good method. Best is to just follow the manufacturers recommendations. 1
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Brij Lalمنذ 5 سنوات My turntable sounds reasonably well though I must've used it for around 500 hours. And my spectrum analyzer shows frequencies at 16K in full height id="hidden13" class="buttons"> while using my turntable. Need I change my stylus? I don't have an option to compare the sound to another turntable. I don't have a digital microscope either. ....وسعت
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MrGeorgeMunroeمنذ 6 سنوات I’m ordering one of these, just to make sure. I have a 2M Bronze with only 300 hrs on it, but it would be nice to be able to inspect it for myself if anything is off with uneven stylus wear or access dirt etc. Thanks for the video. ....وسعت 1
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Robert Culpمنذ 4 سنوات I'm somewhat confused. That first stylus you showed you stated was very worn, but then said it was in good shape. Which is it? Should it be replaced ?
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Hasjelu do Laikaمنذ 5 سنوات Just one simple way : to play it , its mean wear out while sounds bad.
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Stephen DeLucaمنذ 6 سنوات Good tip (no pun intended). I bought that exact microscope a couple months ago for just this purpose and it works quite well.
However, if you think id="hidden16" class="buttons"> a grungy stylus is disgusting to look at, point that microscope at your own anatomy and you'll be in for a shock. The pores in your skin, the callouses on your hands and elbows, and the stubble on your face. Ugh! ....وسعت
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Shallow Thoughtمنذ 5 سنوات Nice seiko what reference :P im drooling over a sarx055
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Charluمنذ 6 سنوات I have both ortofon red and bronze that came with used TT I've bought, you can never be sure about the usage of the stylus with used table and I was id="hidden17" class="buttons"> about to trash the red stylus but will surely buy this microscope instead.. thanks! ....وسعت 5
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stephen leggمنذ 5 سنوات I have had my gold ring cartridge since the mid nineties. I change the stylus but not the cartridge. 4
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doomed huhمنذ 5 سنوات it would be easier to just assume it needs replaced and buy a new one that go through all this.
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Paul RSمنذ 6 سنوات An important issue to be sure. The last time I replaced mine (about a year ago) I began hearing mis-tracking, exaggerated sibilants mostly, on records id="hidden18" class="buttons"> I knew should sound better. A new cartridge of the same model brought it all back. Q: when you hear issues such as this is that an early sign of stylus wear (what I always thought) or is it too late? ....وسعت
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Andreas Leon Landgrenمنذ 5 سنوات At155lc worked since 70s buy an old one cartridge and cantilever

Dont buy ortofon om10 and likes you are better Than that.
If you want to go cheap buy nagaoka mp100
Very low distortion on the nagaoka.
Put it in a 50 dollar dual 1218 and you Will have the same quality as a 2000 dollar new TT for example Project the classic.
I Also like ortofon black or denon 110 mc high output . ....وسعت
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Jay Allenمنذ 4 سنوات I've never known a turntable where the cartridge had to be replaced the same time as the stylus - maybe it's a part of the wasteful maxim of the 21st century.
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Justin Parkmanمنذ 6 سنوات if your a audio freak your upgrade it before it's any where near worn out
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Gramboمنذ 5 سنوات Have you heard of a company called JICO?
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Dorka Dezsöمنذ 5 سنوات I have used StyLast since 1984, and have treated the stylus with every record-side. After some ten years, finally, I was forced to make a decision on a id="hidden21" class="buttons"> new cartridge, because the glue of the AT-36ML had dried/ disappeared. And the stylus was suddenly gone, it came out from the canti. But until that moment the stylus had been pristine, with almost daily spinning. In 2006 I had to buy my second StyLast, and use it now for a diverse set of cartridges, AT, Grado, and Nagaoka. I check the styluses every six months with microscope, and: no wear. Great stuff, and worth the investment. ....وسعت 1
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Mark Greentreeمنذ 6 سنوات I use an iPhone app called Counter+. Each time I play a record, I add it to the counter. On my latest Ortofon OM20, I’m currently at 213 records played, so I estimate this is approximately 200 hours given many records are 40 min etc. I even count a double record as 1 unit, so it averages out. I’ve been using this technique for quite a while and have had good results. When I hit 1,000, I order a new stylus immediately. If anyone’s interested, I also use the Audio-Technica AT607 Stylus Cleaning Forumula before and after playback. However, please check with your styli manufacture before using as these fluids can sometimes damage the stylus. Thankfully, in over 5 years of use, exclusively with Ortofon OM styli, I’ve never had a single problem with it. ....وسعت
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CTF Audio Ampمنذ 6 سنوات Don’t find it very relevant since all the stylus I’ve seen dead are so either by being bent thorn or broken or dead rotten suspension. Only once in my life I heard a worn out diamond and it was on a demo turntable at an importer that as all day long it playing vinyl. ....وسعت
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teadmمنذ 5 سنوات The diamond wears out on the sides, not the bottom. That's why they call them "wear flats". 2
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Swindeمنذ 5 سنوات . When did it become more common for the stylus to be non-removable? All magnet cartridges I have owned have had replaceable styluses. I can see it might be an issue with "moving coil" but I never owned one. Even the old ceramic cartridges of the cheap systems could be replaced in most cases. ....وسعت
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jeff jeffمنذ 6 سنوات i have build some really fine tube amps, own great speakers, and a 701 turntable, but a great part of the hole performance of that high end set has grown id="hidden25" class="buttons"> a lot thanks to this great channel!!! i am really thankfull for al youre amazing tips and tricks shared to all of us! great!!! thanks!!!! i find it strange that you prefure the antistat cleaning mix haha i used it a lot but went back to a other solution; alcohol! Yes! you say NO!!! 50 ml alchol, 450ml iron water(purified water) and 2 drops of dischwasser shine . i now some audiofhile guys dowing this for more than 30 years with the same records. anti stat mix makes the styles dirty fast. give it a try if youre not shure try it a lot on a not so special record and check with the microscoop! keep up the good work! i,m learing every day!! thanks!!! ....وسعت 1
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Charles Ludwigمنذ 6 سنوات Knowledge of subtle record and stylus wear is difficult for me to discern unless its effect is abrupt. A microscope can reveal wear and may support a good id="hidden26" class="buttons"> understanding of what has brought about sound degradation. Just this morning I listened to a new album I purchased yesterday, a Bill Evans recording. The album popped at revolution intervals but did not appear to be scratched. A 3 power magnifier in strong light however did indeed reveal a scratch, which made me think the album was a repackaged affair. At any rate, that album is going back to the book store where I purchased it later today. So, yes, having a microscope seems to be a means not only to appraise stylus and record wear but also to discern record defects while it may still be possible to return such defective albums. ....وسعت 4
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stillaliveandwellمنذ 6 سنوات I thought I was paying attention but must have forgotten my wallet. All jokes aside I could not tell what part of the Dorian diamond was worn down, but id="hidden27" class="buttons"> I'm guessing right below the tip. The absolute best way you could have improved on this info was to place a photo of the worn down Dorian next to a photo of any comparable stereo needle that is brand new. I have many hours on my Sumiko Blackbird, and I pulled the box out and noticed paperwork showing I already had it re-tipped in 2007, which I don't remember doing. I have no idea how many hours are on the needle, I semi-regularly play one of my best audiophile pressings of music that I might not like a whole lot and listen to how well the stylus tracks by how well the record/music sounds or if there are extraneous noises that would not be part of the record pressing. I have set the needle down quite a few times missing the record and each time I think, "well there goes the stylus", but I put it on a record and it sounds fine. All my records are cleaned with the VPI HWP-17F. As Mr. Palmer says below Soundsmith offers a great deal on re-tipping etc. There top of the line service for boron cantilevers starts at $495. A new Blackbird is $1250. The microscope is well worth it, thanks. ....وسعت
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shaunمنذ 6 سنوات I jus go by the sound for now , My Pioneer cartrage is years old but the treble sounds god with old original analog pop albums is the best test "more HI Res" .
WD40 will shift that gue
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kaguyaa2منذ 4 سنوات Most people use cheaper MM cartridges, and stylus only can be replaced. XD
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Murat Aranمنذ 6 سنوات This input may be a bit irrelevant to the topic, but when I thought it was time to replace my stylus I went for an upgrade from conical to elliptical (Indeed id="hidden29" class="buttons"> I replaced the whole cartridge+stylus). I already knew that elliptical styli deliver more clarity (or detail), but that added detail applies not only to the music on the record. I ended up with more pops and clicks! I realised some records, which I thought were clean, were not clean enough :) ....وسعت 18
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Jim Carterمنذ 4 سنوات If I used my standard factory shipped stylus on a not too clean 78 for about a minute or less, does that mean it is no longer good for use only pristinely id="hidden30" class="buttons"> clean vinyl records? Will it potentially harm them if I play my good vinyl with them without replacing the needle cart? ....وسعت
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Phil Shifleyمنذ 5 سنوات Nice video. I appreciate you adjusting your chair height. 2
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Nick Clarkمنذ 5 سنوات How can it be possible for the hardest mineral on the planet (diamond ) to be worn away by a piece of plastic?
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Rob Wellsمنذ 5 سنوات I have an Audio Technica AT15SA that was mounted in a nice standard headshell. I just slapped it on the ol' AT LP120 USB and made the necessary adjustments. id="hidden31" class="buttons"> It sounds amazing. I bought it in 1975 and it's the original stylus. :) I pulled it out of 41 years of storage (I'd replaced it with an AT 155 LC and an ADC ZLM in around 1977 when I got the KD500). The cantilever suspension is perfect. It's like new, which surprised me. ....وسعت 3
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A. K.منذ 5 سنوات Well, for what is worth, BenzMicro offers, instead of replacement of the whole thing, to re tip your cartridge and check the suspension as well for a reasonable id="hidden32" class="buttons"> fee.
This is much more economical than buying a new one, especially if your cartridge is worth well over $ 1,000.
The cartridge comes back from the factory certified with a graph to original specs. Not sure if other manufacturers offer the same service.
Thanks for the great video! ....وسعت 1
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Donald Scheerمنذ 5 سنوات I watched this Video about 2 months ago, Then, I purchased the same Digital Microscope on Ebay for just over $12.00 which included shipping! The Quality id="hidden33" class="buttons"> and Resolution of this device is amazing for the price! I took Photos of My Ortofon 2m Red (Elliptical Bonded Stylus) , Ortofon 2m Blue (Nude Elliptical Stylus,) Black Pearl (Elliptical Bonded Stylus), Shure M44G (Radial Stylus) And a very Old Astattic Sonotone Combination LP/78 with LP Radial and 78 Radial. I was very surprised with the condition of all these stylus! Especially The Old Astatic Sonotone! All Looked Very Good!.Thanks for pointing this Digital Microscope out! I Highly Recommend it.! ....وسعت 3
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NICE DAWGمنذ 5 سنوات That Last Factory . com has a Stylus Treatment that will make it last 10x but you have to treat it every time you play an flip album over.. They have record id="hidden34" class="buttons"> and magnetic tape preservatives also..The products are expensive but their name means exactly what the products can do .. ....وسعت
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Chris Carsonمنذ 5 سنوات You really need to clean your records. Its not that hard and yours are filthy. As well the higher end cartridges usually run some kind of knife stylus id="hidden35" class="buttons"> and that will ignore surface wear from a conical stylus but really needs clean grooves, all the way to the bottom. ....وسعت
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Matteo Rinaldiمنذ 6 سنوات Con un microscopio come quello del video ed il software adatto è possibile fare un'accurata messa a punto dell'SRA, hai già pensato di fare un video in merito a ciò? 1
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Rob Wellsمنذ 5 سنوات I bought a Yamaha PF 50 about 10 years ago at an estate sale for $30. Other than some scratches on the dust cover, it's like new. It came with a Signet id="hidden37" class="buttons"> TK5e and the cantilever was pretty badly bent (about ten degrees to one side). However, it's a great cartridge and stylus design so, before replacing the stylus, I tried to fix it. I put a spacer between the stylus and the side of the cutout in the plastic to keep it in position, and then, with my finger, pushed very carefully and slowly on the tip. After several iterations, it is now dead center in the mount, pounting directly down (easy to verify because of the magnets placed at a 90 degree angle from each other at the other end of the cantilever). It now sounds great and I have no idea how long it will last. ....وسعت 2
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Mikexceptionمنذ 6 سنوات Good presentation.Must have for requiring LP listener not only for checking the stylus which may be seldom done, but also to show visually how clean are grooves.
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Vinyl Rescueمنذ 6 سنوات Thanks for the tip. I have the smaller microscope that I bought a few years ago, but this would be big help in determining stylus tip ear. I have several id="hidden39" class="buttons"> carts, but my prize cart is my Ortofon MC-3 Turbo that is rated at 500 hours by Ortofon. I've put this on my amazon wish list to buy some time soon. ....وسعت 1
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J. J. H., IIمنذ 4 سنوات J. J. H., II
1 minute ago
Apparently, you are unable to communicate accurately and effectively. The first few sentences indicate that your id="hidden40" class="buttons"> thoughts are all confused. This would explain your negative ratings that you have received. So in reality, I stopped your video. The objective here is to capture your audience. Which cleanly you haven't. Your heading conflicts with your sub heading.
When you are replace a worn stylus, the cartridge does not need replacing. The two only need to be switch out if you are upgrading. Hense, that is why cartridge/ stylus manufactures sell their product as a combo or separately. For example, Ortofon and Audio Techncia line of products. They sell their cartridge/ stylus as a combo, or separately.
I wish people would do their homework before presenting a video and taking up YoutTube's server space. ....وسعت
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RantzBizGroupمنذ 5 سنوات A quick question. how old of a stylus can a person use, are there elements that can wear out if it is several years old (I have brought an old TT back id="hidden41" class="buttons"> to life that didn't get used much and the sound is still quite good after a cleaning). Thanks in advance! ....وسعت
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Alexey Kovalevskyمنذ 5 سنوات It's not x1000, it's only x100. Chinese marketing.
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Gweeep Patiمنذ 4 سنوات Sorry to say, your info in this video is near worthless.
Please refer to Shure company manual about how to recognize stylus wear, available via id="hidden42" class="buttons"> search.
You need two lamps shining on either side of the stylus, with 200x magnification generally.
I have such a microscope and inspect styli using what I shall call the "dots of light" method.
The images you present are not even 200x , which I see you acknowledge in comments.
You are not using dual lamps to create the needed light refraction through the stylus, so really you are doing "nada".
Anyway, your method is useless unless you are looking to see if the tip of the stylus is missing, which actually is common.
Otherwise, please educate yourself about the needed procedure before you proclaim this be how to recognize the condition of a stylus.
Maybe this microscope could accomplish the needed assay, but not as you use it. ....وسعت
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RCElectricFlyerمنذ 6 سنوات For good cartridges for LPs and 45s with good stylii, shouldn't you be looking for enlargement of the side radii of the hyperellipical, shibata, or id="hidden43" class="buttons"> similar geometry where it contacts the grooves? And isn'it the enlargement of these radii to a certain point that determine when the stylii are worn out and should be replaced? The point of these geometries is to provide a reasonably large contact area with a minimum of tracing distortion. When these radii enlarge, high frequency information in the groove gets boosted and harmonic distortion (due to increased tracing error) increases. The video infers that the stylus should be changed when is worn to the point that its overall size is much smaller than it was when it was new. I think this is WAY TOO LATE as the stylus can no longer trace as it was originally intended. The master is cut with a sharp edged cutter, so any radius on the playback follower adds tracing distortion. It is fortunate that through most audible frequencies this distortion is very small - particularly when the stylus is new. ....وسعت 4
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Fenderkingمنذ 4 سنوات Great video as usual. Have you ever done a video on the difference between moving magnet and moving coil cartridges? Also which one do you think is the best thanks 1
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Edward Aguinagaمنذ 5 سنوات This guy needs to learn more before he starts talking. His information is less than helpful and leads people to assume their stylii may require changing id="hidden45" class="buttons"> or cartridge need retipping before it's time is due. Even worse his advice may lead people to assume their stylii may be OK when they may require a change.
There are too many self appointed experts on the internet. Look for information on this subject elsewhere. ....وسعت
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Michael Pelzمنذ 4 سنوات The best way to evaluate a stylus is using a SEM. But this isn't a cheap solution.
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brainache555منذ 6 سنوات Experts say that usually after 6 months in usage then the stylus starts to wear on your records.
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Claudio Robertoمنذ 6 سنوات I don't know why the diamond Stylus breaks if this material is the hardiest in the world
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Claudio Iovineمنذ 5 سنوات IT IS NOT A RUBIS STYLUS BUT A SAPHIRE
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N.O.I.منذ 5 سنوات I'm not convinced that USB microscope is as powerful as they say, the stylus pics are good but that's not 1000x. My analogue science microscope id="hidden46" class="buttons"> on it's lowest magnifying lens gets a better closer shot on a diamond than that. ....وسعت 3
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EF ANDMKمنذ 5 سنوات Most styli are diamond tipped. The fact of the matter is, that the only reason you would EVER need to replace it, was if you accidentally damaged the cantilever.which id="hidden47" class="buttons"> does happen. Diamond can cut steel. Does it make sense to you that dragging a diamond stylus across a vinyl disc with 1.5-3 gms of pressure would wear it out??? Your cartridge has a shorter live expectancy than your stylus. ....وسعت
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Paulo Ferreirinhaمنذ 6 سنوات Hi, good way to check the stylus conditions but you may use yours ears also.
You mentioned that the stylus should be replaced between 1000 and id="hidden48" class="buttons"> 1500 hours of use but.
Nagaoka, as an example, recommends the following:
The stylus replacement interval varies depending on the using conditions. But for general use at home, the reference time is between 150-200 hours in which the stylus begin to wear and the tone quality deteriorates. Recommend replacing the stylus as aerly as possible to enjoy clear tone for a long time and not to damge the disc grooves.
Às so, you shall follow manufacturers recommendations, also . ....وسعت
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Israel Rdz.منذ 6 سنوات Quite amazing that it's only 20 bucks, I mean, the damned Zerodust is worth the same, and it's just a piece of sticky gel.
This device id="hidden49" class="buttons"> is amazing; it might even help to assess how damaged a record really is, having that ability to look so deep within the grooves could really come in handy ....وسعت 1
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vinyl cityمنذ 6 سنوات I change my styli every six months regardless! I play about 4 or 5 record's a day give or take! Last time I tried to go a month or so beyond 6 months, id="hidden50" class="buttons"> then I started hearing that the high frequencies weren't as crisp! Then I heard that if you start hearing problems, your already doing damage to your wax! ....وسعت
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TSAmplifiersمنذ 5 سنوات Actually record cleanliness has a far greater effect than tracking force.
If you don't have a record cleaning machine don't buy an expensive stylus.
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dj osearthمنذ 5 سنوات analdial: Title should be: Viewing turntable stylus side-on via child's USB microscope [Macbook] (designed for hair/nail investigation according to id="hidden52" class="buttons"> box).
saying 200, 500-700 and 1000-1500 hours playtime is untrue imo. This factor is largely Dependant on record condition; surface wear, dirt etc. Also interestingly if you back cue or manipulate the disc or platter during playback, stylus get fncked up ;] Too bad you couldn't see front-on, as that is how the groove 'sees' the stylus so also very relevant if not the only relevant angle. Thanks for sharing your knowledge man! Each one to reach one teach one. ....وسعت
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Darren Gomesمنذ 4 سنوات Is this an infomercial? All I see is an ad for the digital microscope, you only need a low magnification microscope to see when a stylus needs to be replaced, id="hidden53" class="buttons"> not something with 1000x magnification. 20x will be enough. You don't have to take the whole cartridge out to inspect the stylus, just remove the stylus. The cartridge will outlast many, many styli. ....وسعت
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J. J. H., IIمنذ 4 سنوات You are referring to the stylus correct? Cartridges should not need to be replaced unless damaged. There is no diamond cartridge. LOL
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Bryan Pمنذ 5 سنوات You DO know the CD has been invented.? LMAO 2